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remember back in 2004, george w. bush got obliterated by john kerry in the first debate. it was one of the worst performances in a debate i've ever seen. remember he asked for the extra time? then he'd just look in the camera and go, it's hard. it's hard. and yet he still won. this is not -- this keeps the game going, right? >> it do. i think -- i kept thinking about mark twain. the rumors of romney's political death were greatly exaggerated, but twain still died. >> well, there is that. god. thank you this morning for that insight. >> can we go to breaking news or a developing banner on that one? mark twain, dead. >> still dead. >> still dead. >> but i thought it was as -- i think '04 -- >> you know, he's funnier in central time zone. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> on something. >> you should see the stat yuue they have of willie geist down here. >> it's huge. >> i'm going to cite my -- the person who knows most about politics in my life, my 8-year-old daughter who came in and asked, why is president obama so mad? >> there you go. >> walked by the screen. >> i think that's a really, you k

did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like reagan or else it probably won't work. in that case, reagan said certain things that might have give

a challenger is 1992. the incumbent president is george h.w. bush. his major party challenger is a young man from arkansas. there's also this other guy with the big ears and it's the other guy with the big ears who wins the first debate. >> the day after, victory for perot. clinton hold his own. trouble for the president. there's no one scorecard for determining who won and who lost last night, but a consensus does seem to be emerging. ross perot, the star of the night because no one knew what to expect. bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a ch

lost the election. you make it look like you won afterwards. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided voter is chearing the spin of the debates. >> big bird, we tend to watch these debates in a different way. one of the points that i have made with people that have called to complain about the president's performance is i would be interested in -- >> they're calling you up? >> i have a had he people that work in politics. what happened? why? why? one of the things i said is, you know, you have to sit in a roomful of, let's say women, who don't follow this every day and see how they perceived it. because i have had a few people say one of the things we're mis

forward to 1982. george h.w. bush was on the ropes over bill clinton when casper weinberger was imply indicated in the iran/contra scandal shortly before election day. bad news for bush that he did not need. in 2004 a classic october surprise. osama bin laden released a video on october 29th just four days before election day in a raz orthin race between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11 it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believed helped president bush. more recently the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year though most have centered around foreign policy others have been about the economy like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exist, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eure

, there was a great deal of national outrage at the slow response and secondly, that president george w. bush-- >>> you said this in 2007 -- [overlapping dialogue] >> let me finish my point. >> juan, this is a lie. >> george w. bush went to jackson square and he said, there is a history of inequality and racism that has its roots in what happened here and we as americans have to do something to overcome that inequity. >> okay. that's all great. but this is senator obama, who lied did the stafford act, $6.9 billion -- >> he didn't lie about it. >> yes, he did. >> he did not. look at record! the record shows-- >>> let him finish. >> he lies about the way the stafford act is applied. he's either that smart, the smartest man and needs to be president or he is lying. and he lied about it because the $6.9 billion went there. >> sean: we have to take a break -- we have more of the tape that we haven't run yet that are pretty eye opening. the video this was reported on. the media was in at the speech, but they doesn't pick up on the obvious things. when the transcript was released, it was only the pr

obama won the state. in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to impossible. your poll -- your poll this week basically showed what ours showed about a week and a half ago, that it was a one-point race. and as anne mentioned, there are these economic head winds. florida is at 8.8%. people feel that. this isn't a state where we've had a thriving auto sector. we have really no manufacturing here. so you can't talk about the auto bailout. you know, we have a home building industry, and that's essentially been in the tank. the state's home foreclosure race is among the highest in the nation. probably the third highest, if i'm not mistaken. so you have this as the backdrop. and there's a really broad sense among people that the country's headed in the wrong direction, that the state's headed in the wrong direction, and it's difficult for obama to sell that sense of optimism he had befor

? whatever else you say about george w. bush, he was very good at pretending to be the sort of down home, you know, texas guy that you could have a beer with. remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house,

. president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" ma

own polling, but in the end, george w. bush still won. and this election's going to be decided in the end based on how those last undecided persuadable voters fall and based on who does a better job of getting their vote to the polls and that's what will decide the outcome. >> cornell, i mean, i heard what you said before, but i got to i guess, the more i think about it, i got to push back more on this because even the president's final statement at the end, which is something i assume is the most easy thing to rehearse, at the end it seemed kind of like he was like well, i'll keep trying. i think -- i don't want to -- i'm paraphrasing it that way. >> anderson, i don't think that's fair at all. two things here. one is i've got to push back on one of the things. the predicate that you just laid out about sort of why mitt romney had such a great performance about how he was factually on health care, the critique of the president's health care was a flat-out lie. the government takeover of health care, every fact checker in the world has said that's just not true. the idea that yo

political distraction for some reason. tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just point to the f

for democratic governor ed rendell and brad blakeman, a former assistant to president george w. bush. good to see both of you. >> good to see you. >> arthel: we'll dissect it state by state and, florida, it could come down to florida, you have the heavily courted hispanic mayor deeply divided along party lines and strengths and challenges we'll talk about for the president and governor in florida. donna, you start. >> well, i mean, i think it has been accurately voted that florida now qualifies as a purple state because of the divisions you cited. and i think the president's message has gained traction in florida, but i also think that the very stringent voter i.d. laws in florida hafner jiezed some significant democrats -- have energized voters and, will help the president on election day. >> we have a republican governor with a great operation and a u.s. senator, marco rubio, who again has been a tremendous help in florida and the people in florida are doing much better under republican leadership andt and certainly governor romney has the proper message for florida, it is about the economy and

and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction, and you can full that $17,000 bucket and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll/simpson did by limiting deductions. >> it's bucket and spades and he'll work it out with congress. is that a plausible response? >>

's a town hall meeting. you remember, mika, in 2000 when al gore moved too close to george w. bush in a town hall meeting and was trying to be assertive? everybody laughed? >> the maucho man. i tried that on mike one time. >> barack obama is going to have to be nicer in the second debate because they'll be in the round so they'll be boxed in here. >> there's a lot of work to do. there's also a lot that can be picked apart in terms of mitt romney's debate performance. take a look at -- is it robert gibbs talking to newt gingrich on "meet the press" yesterday. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but look. i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me. speak

. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the past couple of weeks. i think frankly liberals ought

of 16 active justices, ten of them are republican appointees. the chief justice is george h.w. bush appointee. nine others from george wish one from -- so we're not talking about some radical liberal circuit court. these injureses understand this is a violation of ohio's voting rights and i will be surprised if the supreme court just prior to the election will hear this case, because it was an appropriately decided substantive decision and in fact violates the rights. when you're saying military citizens can vote in a certain way, others cannot that distinction was made making exceptions, you cannot do that. as we all know under our constitution, the notion of expanding voting rights is the nature of this democracy, not reducing them. i find it extraordinary the direction the republican party has taken to decimate the franchise in this country. >> extraordinary is right, outrageous is right. i mean congresswoman, this is unbelievable especially when you find the republican appointees on the court that came to this decision. this is not a partisan decision.

we all inherited from george w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he do denied his plan to limit nate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bolterring to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the energy ro emergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four wee

strategists like george h.w. bush or a richard nixon, i think nixon would be turning over in his grave and i bet bush is grimacing because these were serious guys dealing with tectonic forces that were huge and they knew what the risk to the country were, and they moderated. not everyone would like me attributing richard nixon on your show, but the fact is that he would have serious problems with what mitt romney did and i think both of them would say he just doesn't get it. he doesn't understand the stewardship responsibilities of the president of the united states. his speech, if you think about it, was a speech designed for the 1950s when america was six times larger than the next biggest economy, could do all things in all places. he attributed george marshall in this speech, who was a great man in my view, it was interesting he spent so much time on israel in his speech today but it was george marshall who was -- >> i think he's appealing to the evangelicals on that front. i think it's pure politics. >> what's interesting about the speech is there's a lot of talk about strength and reso

card is a former white house chief of staff under president george w. bush, and he's with me now. andy, so now the administration is going silent on it, saying we're not going to respond to this bombshell report out of congress that this is from the house oversight committee saying that they've got a bun p of whistleblowers who are now saying they were begging for more security other in libya at our consulate and not only was it not provided, but jason chafe fess was on fox news saying it had been downgraded, security had been diminished in part, and that, he says, was the prelude to the 9/11 attack which then, of course, resulted in four dead americans and evolved into this strange place, andy can, where now we've got reports that a dozen, a dozen intelligence reports went up to administration officials saying this is terror, it was an al-qaeda-linked group. and five days after they send susan rice on the round of sunday talk shows. what is going on here? >> well, it's all very troubling to me. first of all, if, in fact, we were asked to beef up the security at our consulate in bengha

was sort of unfairly characterize this as racism. even george w. bush said coming out of katrina, the remarks he made actually echoed obama's word for word in terms of highlighting racial bias in what was happening on the ground of new orleans post- hurricane katrina. that is actually not incorrect. what he was saying is not incorrect. but characterizing it as him being a racist, they have done nothing to characterize him as treating audiences differently, nor has he played the race card on the campaign. that is an important distinction. >> were president obama was saying to that crowd was designed to inspire feelings of racial animosity and what he was saying was factually incorrect. this is why he is either a liar or an incompetent. the senate had just waved this two weeks prior. megyn: that's what i'm saying, -- >> under george bush, they denied them the same consideration was given to manhattan after september 11 and florida after hurricane andrew. it was wrong. it was factually incorrect. he either knew that or he didn't know that but should have. this is a body in the senat

. that was the moment in 1992 then president george h.w. bush looked at his watch during the debate with bill clinton and ross perot. want to talk to dean, a stand-up comedian, writer, and, of course, contributor. dean, you know performing. you have studied these two guys. you write in your blog the candidates who are funny in the debates tend to get elected. what do you think? either one of these guys going to get a laugh? >> i think they're going to try. i'll be honest with you. let's be honest, you don't need a political consultant to tell you, if you make people laugh, you're creating a bomb with them. you're getting an organic disorderly action. they're laughing and they're feeling more warm to you, and i think it's a thing that's overlooked by mft candidates. i think look at ronald reagan's joke. classic. he used it. he destroyed an issue and made himself more likable at the same time. >> do they need to go in with a strategy to be funny, because sometimes when you plan these things and you bomb, it looks even worse. >> i can tell you, i have told many jokes that have bombed in my career. i can

prepare george w. bush for debate was fairly critical on our program before going in and has a column today saying that the tone and the substance of what he presented was much more acceptable to the mainstream of america. and i think that's why you're seeing a movement in the polls whether the numbers are correct or not. we're seeing a trend. >> you know, richard, it seems, even up until the day before the first debate, mitt romney was still running a primary. >> right. >> -- election campaign. and a lot of people, a lot of republicans wondering as well as democrats, why couldn't he make that shift? richard nixon said it famously, when you're primary, you're under the right, the general, under the center. >> makes no sense. honestly, makes no sense and opens him up to the big vulnerability. he had him at last debate. for instance, one of your favorite subjects on simpson/bowles. he goes out and says, you, mr. president, should've embraced simpson/bowles. and one of the rare moments where the president said, why didn't you take simpson/bowles, and he said, wait, hold on a second. whic

participated in the most general election debates? the answer, george w. bush. there were three presidential debates in 2000 and three in 2004. gives bush the record number of debate appearances at six. the elder president bush and bill clinton both did five general election debates. an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-healt

, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has been strategically spent is the question. we've focused a laser on the middle class. there's a week in august where restore had an ad up about jobs, crossroads had an ad up about the debt. >> those are three republican-oriented super pacs. >> romney was advertising on welfare reform. if you're a voter in toledo, you're saying what is the story they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strategic. >> i'm sure yo

. doing mock debates with lawyer ted olson, a former u.s. solicitor general under president george w. bush. a very skilled courtroom litigator, argued a lot of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court, so a good partner for paul ryan, being able to think on his feet in a moment's notice to challenge the responses. he's also reviewing joe biden's previous debates and speeches. joe biden's been an elected official for 40 years, so he has a lot of experience under his belt and he's memorized some stats and phrases that paul ryan might be able to use. obviously, in a debate like that, 90 minutes long, you want to give as much information in the shortest amount of time as possible and that's what paul ryan is doing. he has a beautiful day to prepare, but we believe he's in the hotel preparing for this debate in 48 hours, thomas. >> we'll be watching. ron mott traveling with congressman ryan. thank you so much, appreciate it. >>> so, what will it take to win the vp debate and the presidential debate one week from now? joining me is political science professor samuel popkin, author of "the candid

assistant to george w. bush. santita let me start with you. americans are very unhappy with the economy, the president says he's unhappy too. is his challenge to explain how the next four years would be any different? and if you look at his convention speech i'm not sure there is any difference. >> you know i think that his great challenge is the same challenge that governor romney faces tomorrow night, which is to be relaysable an rerelatable and likable. likability really does matter. gregg: you don't think people really want specifics, tell me mr. president how the next four years is any different. >> you know, gregg you have to balance style with substance. the fact is they'll have to run against their narrative in a time of great economic want. you've got a very, very wealthy man who is running. i'm not saying he can't relate to the poor but governor romney is going to have to do that. president obama is someone who is prove sore kwral and known for his excellence. gregg: insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. the president has been describ

. he was terrible. it happened to george h.w. bush in 1992 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george w. bush in 2004 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible as well. it is hard to be that insulated for four years. and this one takes being insulated to a new degree, this president does. as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be shocked that somebody's punching you in the face after being so protected and basically play some bubble wrap in four years like we do with our president. >> the president is usually pretty good when the game's on the line. and the game's going to be on the line in two weeks. he's got to perform better or it will be a real problem. i think just to focus on the debates forgets the fact that governor romney needs to perform in the next two weeks. he can't just wait for the next debate. he did a conservative event. he did hannity. i still don't get the logic of his friday. >> how many days out are we, and he is finally -- >> he should do "letterman." >> i get th

reagan's whose campaign i managed did terrible in the first debate against mondale. george w. bush did terrible. jimmy carter did terrible. george h.w. bush did terrible. presidents don't get pushed around when they're president in the white house. nobody stands up whether john kerry or anybody else push him around. i don't think he was on. he couldn't defend his own programs. he thought it was beneath him and that attitude came in through all the way. no question mitt romney knew the ballgame was yesterday. he was looking forward to make his case. debated extremely well 20 some odd debates when republican primariry. he is much stronger debater than four years ago. my sense he will be a strong debate all the way through. megyn: michael, i want to ask if romney did sufficient job connecting with american people that he needed to do? so question he did on sparring on points but did he connect? there were a couple moments he tried to or maybe he did. i want to get your take. first commenting on barack obama acknowledged it was his wedding anniversary last night. listen here. >> congratula

debate in 1992, george h.w. bush deliberately looks at his watch and pays for it when the audience and voters see it as disrespectful. >> there are differences. >> reporter: body language makes a difference in a debate between al gore and george w. bush as well. gore sighs over and over again and bush surprises by winning the debate and the election. both president obama and governor romney are seasoned debaters, and expertes say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. anderson cooper, cnn. >>> once again, the night is tomorrow, the president versus his challenger, face to face, special coverage begins at 7:00 eastern, right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> a lot more news developing this hour. watch this. america's top guy in afghanistan says he will not allow troops to be murdered. but do these insider attacks mean a change in strategy is coming? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> one pilot calls it embarrassing. seats coming loose on a major airline. is this

george w. bush. how close to a reality could is be? >> hard to tell pop probably not the concern many have. remember, as your teaser said, the obama administration did want to close guantanamo within a year and move the detainees to the states. but it was pelosi and harry reid who said you can't use any federal funds to move guantanamo detainees to the united states and you can't use funds to buy or rehab a facility in the united states. jamie: why acquire it? >> there is overcrowding in some federal facilities. this is a well-built relatively new facility. it's been sitting dormant. i take them at their word that they want to utilize it to ease overcrowding and to bring jobs to the area. but the scepticism that some have is that the obama administration will make an end run around federal law, democrats and republicans, and try to close gitmo on the chief. jamie: there is so much overcrowding of the state prisons that the governor is releasing some prisoners locally that should potentially be behind bars, residents of illinois may argue. why not leave that opportunity or even assist

it reminded me of george w. bush in 2004, that they don't like somebody getting in their face, and mitt romney got in his face, and romney's command of the facts was really quite astonishing. his arguments as to the differences between obamacare and romney care, his indictment of the obama record on the economy, very impressive and there were points, and we've talked about body long, and i think we've talked too much about it where romney was always looking directly the a the president and the president was looking down, frankly like a kid being scolded. it was not a very attractive comparison from the president's point of view. martha: we are looking at the split screen and it does not do a disservice to everybody, it's what we saw over and over and over last night. let's play a clip when they talked about simpson-bowles last night. i want to get your thoughts on that. >> i have my own plan. it's not the same as simpson-bowles. in my view the president should have grabbed it. if he wanted to make adjustments do it take it, fight for it go to congress. >> that's what we've done, is we've made

that was caused by the republican policies in george w. bush's tenure, and, you know, a lot of them are holding down -- trying to hold down more than one job, some more than two jobs. so i really think it's incumbent upon the parties to really reach out to them to let them know that they are the deciding factor, and that this is about making sure that their families reach the american dream, and we've seen in poll after poll, democrats win the majority of support of latino voters right now. president obama, you had an nbc telemundo poll, having president obama at more than 70%. there's a survey coming out monday of latina moms where president obama is at 92%. so these are not good numbers for the republicans if they really want to see the white house in november. >> amy, changing topics here. big bird. we can't not talk about big bird. he's become the big talker. pbs, though, just a small fraction of the federal budget, as obama is quick to point out. so why do you think the push by romney to end the funding? >> for big bird? >> well, for pbs, sure. >> right. well, he said he was a fan of big b

, former assistant to george w. bush. and the chairman of the dnc. gentlemen, welcome back. now we have had a bipartisan effort on top of capitol hill into exactly what the situation is there and why the ambassador and the others were not better protected. brad, how does this man's testimonial change the story? >> i think it shows that the truth eventually comes out. no matter how the white house wanted to stone unturned stone wall. it did not fit their political narrative once before a presidential election, but somehow osama bin laden is dead and al qaeda is forever vanished. it is not true. al qaeda is alive and well. he is doing harm to american citizens, we now know that our consulate in benghazi was substandard and we received a waiver from the state department with regard to security. the laws were inferior, that construction, rebar, our ambassador was not properly protected as he should've been should have been in moving around the country with proper security. the security was very lax. this administers it has a lot to answer for. they like us to believe at first, megyn, this was a

to president george w. bush. he's also a contribute r-r. fox news contributor. good to have you here this morning. the headline number is one that has to make them very happy at the white house this morning. >> it has to make them happy, not very happy. 114 new jobs created, a thousand more than anticipated. that's also less than what is called the replacement rate. we need about 140, 150,000 new jobs a month just to stay even. that's how many new people enter the workforce each month, and so i think we're going to see a major response by the president. we won't see him doing black flips on the campaign trail, he will be very measured about this because you can't sort of puff this number up when the anxieties that people have about the economy are deep and dark. martha: i was talking to chris wall as about that. the economy is an individual experience. you think things are getting better and you know if you have a full time or part time job. you have a white board with you this morning. let's point out some things on that. >> let's remember this. president obama on three measures hav

h.w. bush still won that race. >> george stephanopoulos, thank you very much. great to see you here on the set this morning. george has a big show this morning featuring romney campaign senior adviser ed gillespie and obama campaign senior adviser robert gibbs and also bill o'reilly and george will co-anchor along with diane sawyer our coverage of the vice presidential debate this thursday night moderated by abc's award-winning correspondent martha raddatz starting at 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pacific. >> looking forward to see martha moderate that debate. for now the other top headlines. for that we go to ron. >> we'll begin with new concerns coming out of syria about the civil war in that country. "the new york times" is reporting that saudi arabia and qatar are sending money and small arms to rebels but are refusing to provide heavier weapons because of objections by the united states. the government is worried that weapons like shoulder-fired missiles could end up in the hands of terrorists and meanwhile, syrian president bashar assad made a rare appearance, first time since march. >>>

. >> reporter: fast forward to 1992. president george h.w. bush was already on the ropes against bill clinton over a sluggish economy, when casper wineberger, former president ronald reagan's defense secretary, was implicated in the iran contra scand shortly before election day. bad news that bush, who served as reagan's vice president, did not need. in 2004, a classic october surprise. osama bin laden released a video on october 29th, just four days before election day in a razor-thin race between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11, it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believed helped president bush. more recently the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year. though most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that alr

in the election in the history of this poll, except for george h.w. bush's 34/52 rating. and he lost that election. tonight, ann romney seems sure that the country will soon realize how lucky we are that mitt romney is running for president. >> i know he's very well prepared. he's focused, he's very bright. i think the country will be blessed by having someone with his skill set, his experience and his -- just his goodness. to be able to run this country. this guy does care that he's out there. and he's a person with compassion. >> first lady michelle obama did not attempt to lower expectationings for her husband today. >> he doesn't need much advice. he's a very good debater. so i do tell him to have fun and relax and just be himself because the truth is if he's the barack obama the country has come to know and trust, he's going to do a great job. >> the new nation nbc news poll shows that among likely voters president obama polls at 49% and mitt romney at 46%. tonight, night silver of the new york times blog, forecasts that on november 6 obama will win 318 votes and mitt romney will win 219. and

go back to when george w. bush was president of the united states and when gas was, what, 3 bucks a gallon, something like that? it was gigantic letters on the headline, the paper of the "new york times" where they were hammering it. now we've got a president where the gas has doubled. i think it was 1.85 when he took office. now close to 4 bucks. >> i think that we have seen, steve, an amazing propensity of the media to kind of put a very positive spin on some pretty not so impresssive economic news. >> steve: what is that? >> because maybe i think a number of us have been stunned by the extent to which this time at least headline writers seem to lean towards democrats. if you have headline about slow growth, you would expect to see that in the headline. but instead, you see a headline in the times or the journal about a stock surge instead. they did a study at -- aei did a study that showed 15% of the headline which is tended to be more positive given grim economic news and when you're talking about democrats. >> steve: the word is not getting out. >> they're cheerleading they'r

2000, news broke, george w. bush had been arrested for drunk driving, granted that happened way back in the '70s. how was he able to overcome that story so close to the election? >> well, you know, he can't really overcome it. he just didn't pay a high enough price. everybody will recall, of course, that he actually lost the popular vote in that race, even though he won the electoral vote. where as he was up by about five points before that story broke. i think it is pretty clear that that cost him some votes but didn't cost him quite enough to actually cost him the election. >> so, aaron, what is our october surprise? or have we already seen it? >> i don't know we have yet. some people are talking about the debate as the october surprise. some people are talking about the jobs report. i'm not sure either of those are really a huge game changing event in and of themselves. the beauty of the october surprise is that we don't know what it is before it happens. but a lot of times these things happen, have to do with foreign policy, obviously, the release of the osama bin laden tape in 2

sununu, former chief of staff under george h.w. bush. good to have you on. thank you. as for the president, the campaign says mr. obama did what he set out to do. >> was he satisfied with his performance? >> well like i, i've said before, presidents never is satisfied with his performance. he is always challenging himself and he will, this, he will review it. if he wants to make some changes in the next debate he will do so. what he was satisfied with that he went and told the american people the truth and i think is fairly well-convinced that governor romney didn't meet that standard. jon: so to be fair and balanced here is ben labolt, the obama for america national press secretary. let me read you a quote from maggie haberman at "politico". >> sure. jon: post-debate the president's campaign was spinning valiantly in the media center that no mistake among democratic operatives here and in other states that obama blew it. if that is the thinking of the mainstream media, how do you try to counter that notion? >> well, listen, governor romney delivered a great work of p

with this group of voters, it was george h.w. bush. and he just barely eked out a 1% lead over michael dukakis. this has been a difficult voting bloc with republicans. >> sure has been. i don't think the romney campaign has expectations of being even with the president among women voters on election day. i think they would be thrilled to be within a handful of points because they can make gains elsewhere. if he is anywhere close to even, that is big win and i think likely means romney victory on november 6th. martha: you know, certainly would tend to substantiate the romney argument that women voters are just like other people. women are just like other people, news flash and they are interested in the economy and when you look at, you know the folks that were out there during the democratic convention, sandra flush and a lot of -- fluke, specific issues on abortion and like, it would appear after this last debate we know what resonates more solidly with women? >> i think that is exactly right. all along we looked at the election may have started out with a referendum on president obama's poli

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